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he said we are going to keep the deficits and raise tax rates on the rich. campaign city, here we go. i don't think this is specific. it was broad in general and appealed to a lot of universal themes. anyone watching that team will know that it wasn't ideal logical speech. it was an important speech. the is agenda was laid out in the presidential campaign. he won that. the american people voted for that. here, he was laying out the not very specific things he was going to do. but a vision for the country. he was dividing the gop. i don't think the president can take credit for the ambivalence that exists within the republican party. i mean how do you see this? >> there is no question you can't deny that obama wants to end the reagan era. but the second point is, can obama split the republican party? to some extent he did on the fiscal cliff vote. he has a lot of issues like this. immigration and gun control. to mark's point. the president went out there and tested what he believes is his vision. this first term was about being a sen trist and now he is not h
he said we are going to keep the deficits and raise tax rates on the rich. campaign city, here we go. i don't think this is specific. it was broad in general and appealed to a lot of universal themes. anyone watching that team will know that it wasn't ideal logical speech. it was an important speech. the is agenda was laid out in the presidential campaign. he won that. the american people voted for that. here, he was laying out the not very specific things he was going to do. but a vision for...
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we had a bad situation a couple years ago with the deficit recession. the hotel business suffered dramatically. over the past couple of years, we've climbed out of it and had dramatic recovery in 2010, 2011 and 2012. we think we're still in a good spot in the recovery. we have a situation where demand is strong for the hotel business and supply is low and should stay low for a couple years. our perspective is it's a good time to be in the hotel business. >> is he right? >> right now there's a three-point spread between supply and the industry. very low supply means cycles should be longer. we're moving into the 37th month of recovery. our expectation is this will be a prolonged recovery. >> somebody told me another four years. the second days of the cycle is when occupancies are high, rate growths are high and profit growth is considerable. so you're entering into a healthy phase. >> the other -- apart from buying and selling properties, the other decision you have to make is whether or not you will stand on your own, brand your own hotels, or pay hilto
we had a bad situation a couple years ago with the deficit recession. the hotel business suffered dramatically. over the past couple of years, we've climbed out of it and had dramatic recovery in 2010, 2011 and 2012. we think we're still in a good spot in the recovery. we have a situation where demand is strong for the hotel business and supply is low and should stay low for a couple years. our perspective is it's a good time to be in the hotel business. >> is he right? >> right now...
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that's $1.3 trillion deficit. you know, if the republicans want to save their house majority, they'd better cut spending like there's no tomorrow. we'll have a little debate on our budget priorities next up. almost tastes like one of jack's cereals. fiber one. uh, forgot jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's for breakfast? um... try the number one! yeah, this is pretty good. [ male announcer ] over a third of aer. fiber one. >>> welcome back. >>> welcome back. house budget committee chairman paul ryan announced today that republicans are putting a short-term debt ceiling hike on the table. short-term debt ceiling hike. but here's what i'm not hearing and what we should be hearing is an unambiguous plan to splash spending now. republicans need an absolute rock solid plan to implement the sequester which is $1.2 trillion over the next ten years. this is essential. not just to unite the republican conference. but more importantly, it's essential to helping the economy grow more rapidly. and if the republicans don't get it d
that's $1.3 trillion deficit. you know, if the republicans want to save their house majority, they'd better cut spending like there's no tomorrow. we'll have a little debate on our budget priorities next up. almost tastes like one of jack's cereals. fiber one. uh, forgot jack's cereal. [ jack ] what's for breakfast? um... try the number one! yeah, this is pretty good. [ male announcer ] over a third of aer. fiber one. >>> welcome back. >>> welcome back. house budget committee...
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the deficit reduction comes because they raise taxes and they cut medicare. had nothing to do with medicaid, right, and the states themselves have to deal -- i mean, we all talk about what it meant for the individual but there was another part, medicare that got stuffed down the throats of the states and they have to take -- they have to spend this money at the -- >> they don't have to do it, right. the supreme court ruled they could opt out which is what governor perry is doing and bobby jindal is doing in louisiana and what's happening in south carolina, and those are governors. if you're a governor and you're looking at this, it makes perfect sense for you to take this because it does draw in, again in, jan brewer's case, ten times the amount of federal funds, so if governors are choosing to not do this, then it is a partisan game because it makes no economic sense. for them their self-interest is to do this. >> but for a program that -- that the president has admitted, everyone is admitting spending too much money, we have potentially 30% of the health ca
the deficit reduction comes because they raise taxes and they cut medicare. had nothing to do with medicaid, right, and the states themselves have to deal -- i mean, we all talk about what it meant for the individual but there was another part, medicare that got stuffed down the throats of the states and they have to take -- they have to spend this money at the -- >> they don't have to do it, right. the supreme court ruled they could opt out which is what governor perry is doing and bobby...
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reasonable leadership out of washington and deal with the debt issue and begin to deal with our fiscal deficits. >> right. >> i think, maria, you could see a real positive lift because people are ready to invest. they need to feel some kind of inspiration, and i think they are ready to invest. >> that's what we're hearing across the board. real quick, you going to raise your dividend this spring? >> well, as you know, we have to go through the process, and we have to wait to see what the fed says, but i'm optimistic. i can't speak for the fed but i'm personally optimistic. >> we'll leave it there. mr. king, good to have you on the program. >> have a good day. >> and to you. chairman and ceo of bb&t. didn't hold on to the triple-digit gains. does that mean we're setting up for a pullback tomorrow? our panel of wall street pros will give you a leg up on what's going to move your money tomorrow. don't miss it. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you don't have to be a golf pro to walk like one. ♪ when you walk 10,000 steps a day, it's the same as walking a professional golf course. humana. health and wel
reasonable leadership out of washington and deal with the debt issue and begin to deal with our fiscal deficits. >> right. >> i think, maria, you could see a real positive lift because people are ready to invest. they need to feel some kind of inspiration, and i think they are ready to invest. >> that's what we're hearing across the board. real quick, you going to raise your dividend this spring? >> well, as you know, we have to go through the process, and we have to...
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this issue raises all the deficit issues. it should. it really is after the fact. >> the reason we're having the problem now because they don't pass a budget. >> yes. exactly. look, they're avoiding the really tough stuff, which is dealing with long term deficits which we face today. they're much worse than what we faced in the '80s and '90s. they've got to get serious about doing the hard work that has to be done on both sides of the aisle to deal with the specifics how you get this done. >> sir, do you think the u.s. has a spending problem? >> look, we've got a deficit problem. >> is that the same thing as a spending problem or is it different? >> you've got -- look, when i was in congress and when we balanced the budget in the '90s, we were taking in roughly, these figures will be a little off, roughly, we were taking in 20% of gdp and spending 20% of gdp. that seems to me to be a fair place to come out. maybe you could put it at 18, maybe you could put it at 21 or 22. but get an agreement on that, and then go to work on both sides o
this issue raises all the deficit issues. it should. it really is after the fact. >> the reason we're having the problem now because they don't pass a budget. >> yes. exactly. look, they're avoiding the really tough stuff, which is dealing with long term deficits which we face today. they're much worse than what we faced in the '80s and '90s. they've got to get serious about doing the hard work that has to be done on both sides of the aisle to deal with the specifics how you get...
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you can't solve the deficit problem and our debt ongoing unless we in fact reduce our spending. the math doesn't work. >> let me ask you this. if you get spending cut ideas, are you going to agree to more tax increases? >> i think that's the negotiation that needs to happen. >> you want to go for more tax increases after the tax increases that went through on the fiscal cliff? >> i think closing loopholes, i think there has to be revenue enhancement and closing loopholes, already raised the tax rates, but there's got to be some spending cuts to go along with it. i'm not going to give away the store unless we get something in return. >> you did that already. did you that already at the end of the year? >> i'm not in congress thankfully. i'm running a very fiscally prudent state that's well managed and lives within its means and saves money for a rainy day and is growing the economy to produce more growth money by expanding a healthy economy. washington would do a lot to listen and watch what we're doing in utah because we're doing it right. >> you sure r.governor, thanks very muc
you can't solve the deficit problem and our debt ongoing unless we in fact reduce our spending. the math doesn't work. >> let me ask you this. if you get spending cut ideas, are you going to agree to more tax increases? >> i think that's the negotiation that needs to happen. >> you want to go for more tax increases after the tax increases that went through on the fiscal cliff? >> i think closing loopholes, i think there has to be revenue enhancement and closing...
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there are big daunting deficits in both of these entitlement projects. 701 the new 65, we're all living longer. even randall stephenson going as far as saying you know at at&t we're actually going to need people to work longer because we're not going to have many people coming up to fill in the ranks. >> my view is on the one hand it's easy for ceos to say go ahead and work until 70. they're not, working in a coal mine. on the other hand, when social security began at 1935, full benefits kicked in at 65. we're paying more benefits to more people longer today. >>> boeing, 787 is grounded worldwide. battery issue being investigated. is the faa culpable in this, bertha, or not? >> i'm not sure it's the faa. i'm wondering in terms of the testing of the batteries. that appears to be the major issue that we are seeing and could you really test them? is there a problem with the lithium batteries when you've been flying plaens? >> robby, you're a brand expert here. what would you be telling boeing to do today? and do you think the image of the 787 is so tarnished that it will become like the dc
there are big daunting deficits in both of these entitlement projects. 701 the new 65, we're all living longer. even randall stephenson going as far as saying you know at at&t we're actually going to need people to work longer because we're not going to have many people coming up to fill in the ranks. >> my view is on the one hand it's easy for ceos to say go ahead and work until 70. they're not, working in a coal mine. on the other hand, when social security began at 1935, full...
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account deficits. these are the things that really matter. and they're just kind of big macros. so they divide them down to a single session or a quick abrupt move. but they're the real flows in the global economy that are going to matter going forward. >> yeah, all right. i'm staying long. i'm staying long, kevin. >> well, we think last year we gave it a bite on the cheek. but that's going to be a lot harder this year, joe. and one of the things you're pointing out are extremely high gdp. and so the big thing this year is to make the switch. the customers are now the employees. the employees are the future customers. so you've got to keep the growth and accelerate the growth in employment over the 1.25/1.50 that we're doing if we're going to keep the equity market going in the direction that it has been for the past two years. >> all right, kevin ferry. thank you. >> is that a phone ringing down there, kevin? >> yeah. someone is trying to get to their broker. >> it would ring and ring and ring. >> tha
account deficits. these are the things that really matter. and they're just kind of big macros. so they divide them down to a single session or a quick abrupt move. but they're the real flows in the global economy that are going to matter going forward. >> yeah, all right. i'm staying long. i'm staying long, kevin. >> well, we think last year we gave it a bite on the cheek. but that's going to be a lot harder this year, joe. and one of the things you're pointing out are extremely...
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i like the enforced budget cuts because that really helps the deficit. so i'm in favor of that. >> it's another reason the vix is down this much today, judge. you look at the market the market is pretty flat today. but the vix is just getting cranked. >> on your point, sorry to interrupt, i want to let everybody know the vix is now, reading a note from our news desk the vix is below 13 for the first time since june of 2007. and lot of that would mean that the risk premiums of course have shrunk and that would be because people are looking out saying rather than at the end of january beginning of february they've got to really ramp up the rhetoric and we get right back to the fisticuffs we saw in december we're not perhaps going to get that now because of this what john harwood just reported. >> another down day for apple and off more than 4% this week is a bottom near or will demand worries keep weighing on shares? pete, i'll go to you on this one. >> stay away from apple. i don't understand what the fascination. everybody has had this fascination that t
i like the enforced budget cuts because that really helps the deficit. so i'm in favor of that. >> it's another reason the vix is down this much today, judge. you look at the market the market is pretty flat today. but the vix is just getting cranked. >> on your point, sorry to interrupt, i want to let everybody know the vix is now, reading a note from our news desk the vix is below 13 for the first time since june of 2007. and lot of that would mean that the risk premiums of course...
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he doesn't care about deficits. he's not going to deal on this. >> you know, a couple of times during the news conference, i was interested in this. president obama said to congress, go ahead, give me the power and i'll issue more debt. that's really what he wants. he wants the power to issue unlimited debt so he can have unlimited spending and eventually he's going to get around to unlimited tax hikes. >> well, to be clear, as you know, when we talk about the debt, the president doesn't get to decide, you know, how much we're spending that's something that rests with congress. but in terms of what kate was saying with respect to, you know, him wanting to not really offer any cuts he's incurred the wrath of his party by offering chain cpi to social security. that's a reindexing of the cost of living index, revising down how much elderly people are getting. and he talk about potential fixes to medicare, potentially raising the age. it is not true that he's not willing to do that. i'll say there are a lot of people on
he doesn't care about deficits. he's not going to deal on this. >> you know, a couple of times during the news conference, i was interested in this. president obama said to congress, go ahead, give me the power and i'll issue more debt. that's really what he wants. he wants the power to issue unlimited debt so he can have unlimited spending and eventually he's going to get around to unlimited tax hikes. >> well, to be clear, as you know, when we talk about the debt, the president...
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but the deficit has to be dealt with. and it needs to be dealt with in a matter of months. >> i guess the question, jim, here, is are they sort of sandbagging or preparing us for the worst? they did have to slash 2012 in october, so maybe they're preempting -- >> you come on tv, you've got to be statesman-like. you can't come in here and say, look, i think it's going to be good. she's just saying -- she's writing off europe. i think europe is stabilizing. they get a turn in asia. tio-2 was a disappointment. i think it's troughing. latin america really strong. ag really strong. i think it's actually gotten its groove back. >> in terms of the chemicals, performance chemicals were down by 15%, sales, electronics, communications also down. ag you mentioned, bright spot, up 18%. they've been talking for a long time about strong demand in latin america for seeds, which have been an add to the other agricultural names, like monsanto. >> finally you can see it. one of the things of the great ceo of ppg, he's been saying, some of
but the deficit has to be dealt with. and it needs to be dealt with in a matter of months. >> i guess the question, jim, here, is are they sort of sandbagging or preparing us for the worst? they did have to slash 2012 in october, so maybe they're preempting -- >> you come on tv, you've got to be statesman-like. you can't come in here and say, look, i think it's going to be good. she's just saying -- she's writing off europe. i think europe is stabilizing. they get a turn in asia....
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i'll win votes from independent swing voters and then i win on the deficit. >> you can -- >> on cutting regulations. where it matters. >> you can still be a principled conservative. this is all music to my ears. joe i got to take a break. stay with me. we'll have you back. i want to talk some about fiscal policies and what republicans should or should not do about that crisis. meanwhile we'll talk about it now. a group of leading conservatives joined forces on debt spending today. they penned an op-ed on why the threat of a default ought to be used to force a balanced budget a threat of a debt default. i believe this is completely dead wrong. i think it will lower our credit rating, damage our economy. by the way it's totally unworkable. but we got to talk. joining me now is the co-author of that op-ed. we bring back our friend, cnbc contributor a former bush white house deputy press secretary. let me begin with you mr. nino. i want to cut spending like nobody's business. you mess around with the debt ceiling i'm going tell you, buddy, the whole world, fiscally, economically and politic
i'll win votes from independent swing voters and then i win on the deficit. >> you can -- >> on cutting regulations. where it matters. >> you can still be a principled conservative. this is all music to my ears. joe i got to take a break. stay with me. we'll have you back. i want to talk some about fiscal policies and what republicans should or should not do about that crisis. meanwhile we'll talk about it now. a group of leading conservatives joined forces on debt spending...
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he's the cow author of controversial simpson/bowles deficit reduction plan. find out what he has to say now as we're edging closer and closer to that debt ceiling. >>> later, no way to get to work equals no job. a new study shows 3.5 million jobs will be lost if we don't start rebuilding america's infrastructure, today. we'll debate the high-stakes issue affecting all of us in the back half of the program. don't miss it. back in a moment. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announ
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i mean they are very concerned about the debt to gdp and the budget deficit, which are running at roughly 101% and 8 to 10%. we kind of look like spain looks right now. if anything we might be worse. but what i think happens is the republicans have two shots. march 1st is the sequester where they can challenge or what we think will happen they will wait until the march 27th continuing resolution and they are going to press the president for spending reductions which is absolutely necessary if we want to maintain at least two of our three aaa credit ratings. >> andy, i just find it amazing we now have a culture where it doesn't matter what you said a couple of years ago, even when you're the head guy running the country. we all know, raid or heard and today was the notable quotable in the "journal" when the president was a senator was a different guy when it comes to his interpretation of voting or not voting for the debt ceiling. but i happened in my opinion agree with you on your interpretation of the republicans and the retreat. i think that principle might be a good thing. centerpiece
i mean they are very concerned about the debt to gdp and the budget deficit, which are running at roughly 101% and 8 to 10%. we kind of look like spain looks right now. if anything we might be worse. but what i think happens is the republicans have two shots. march 1st is the sequester where they can challenge or what we think will happen they will wait until the march 27th continuing resolution and they are going to press the president for spending reductions which is absolutely necessary if...
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there is an issue with respect to fiscal deficit. where we saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very good revenue comes from india gee of fee. but some of those moves that will happen by the government and therefore the decision for investment and therefore there is a little bit of uncertainty. that is a big reason why we have given a guidance of .5% to 3% in large range. >> suresh -- >> based on the deal plan that we have, we feel that -- what? >> so just to be clear, you're basically saying just so people know what we're talking about, the guide kwans for the current quarter was between 1.2% and 3.5%. you came in at 2.4% revenue growth. your guidance for the next period
there is an issue with respect to fiscal deficit. where we saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very...
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she goes on to say we've taken good steps around the debts but the deficit has to be dealt with and it needs to be dealt with in a matter of months. oh golly. down goes dupont in pre-market trading. within a few minutes she tells me that all anyone is focused on is the country is doing pretty darned good especially in latin america. with that commodity in question, a stock that had been sinking now reverses and ends up flying up as it should have won the earnings were first reported. one of the best performing stocks in the dow. again, a huge move for this one. believe me, if these were just isolated examples i would be fine with them, but they are par for the course and there are so many better like this, you can see what i regard all this trading off the headlines, without people really looking, to be fraught with calamity and chances for you to lose money with almost every twist and turn. i sure liked the look of ibm and google earnings and i love the way the stock traded after the close, but until i hear the conference calls myself i am not going to pronounce them as terrific as th
she goes on to say we've taken good steps around the debts but the deficit has to be dealt with and it needs to be dealt with in a matter of months. oh golly. down goes dupont in pre-market trading. within a few minutes she tells me that all anyone is focused on is the country is doing pretty darned good especially in latin america. with that commodity in question, a stock that had been sinking now reverses and ends up flying up as it should have won the earnings were first reported. one of the...
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it's been running a huge surplus which is the deficit of the other countries of europe that they cannot finance. >> correct. >> that is the essence of the european crisis. >> but in a global environment -- >> the whole question with respect to the u.s. is whether we can sustain our current account relationship with the rest of the world. and particularly with china. and that's a decision that the rest of the world will make. it's completely -- >> james, are we -- we added a new entitlement, obama care, which some, i don't know what that's going to cost. there's some groups, i guess they would call them, if they're too conservative, but trillions and trillions of dollars of additional entitlements that we've just layered over the entitlements we already have. are we at the right level now? is this the perfect level of promises we've made? or would you even go above where we are right now? >> well, i think the problem that we have is that our health care sector is bloated by this enormous private insurance system that we have. this sort of mixed bag of insurance schemes. that makes our he
it's been running a huge surplus which is the deficit of the other countries of europe that they cannot finance. >> correct. >> that is the essence of the european crisis. >> but in a global environment -- >> the whole question with respect to the u.s. is whether we can sustain our current account relationship with the rest of the world. and particularly with china. and that's a decision that the rest of the world will make. it's completely -- >> james, are we --...
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deficit, but without shredding programs like social security and medicare. you called for after overall of government. >> fort week, we understand the people we believe america's prosperity must rest upon the broad shoulders of a riegz middle class. >> mary jo jacoby was former special assistant to reagan. she joins us now. mary jo, good morning. i'm getting you had a few problems with what we heard from the president yesterday. >> well, kelly, it wasn't exactly the inaugural address that i would have written, but, you know, the president delivered it well. the crowd reacted enthusiastically, and now it's time for the nation to get to work. >> what about, mary jo, this sense of coming together, which is the great hope that obama would unite the country? i think people have gotten cynical about those prospects. is that right? >> i think the tone has certainly changed over the last four years and also if inaugural address yesterday, it was not exactly a hands across america speech. >> a lot of people were criticizing the speech for being general. inaugural add
deficit, but without shredding programs like social security and medicare. you called for after overall of government. >> fort week, we understand the people we believe america's prosperity must rest upon the broad shoulders of a riegz middle class. >> mary jo jacoby was former special assistant to reagan. she joins us now. mary jo, good morning. i'm getting you had a few problems with what we heard from the president yesterday. >> well, kelly, it wasn't exactly the inaugural...
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then the risks accumulate and the federal reserve has been printing money to finance the government deficit, buying a lot of government bonds and at some point that is going to come apart and it might come apart, might come apart in a fashion that is rather like august of 2007 where things seem to be going smoothly and then all of a sudden it all falls apart and the question is do we have adequate contingency plans in place should that happen? >> right. >> i fear we do not. >> before we let you go, when these transcripts come out do they evoke any memories for you good or bad about these meetings? >> oh, well they evoke lots of memories. i haven't seen the transcripts of course. i look forward to reviewing it because that was my last full year in office. it was a wonderful experience to be there. i learned an awful lot. and certainly one of the things i reflect on is the various points that we missed that i missed and my colleagues missed. >> william poole, former st. louis fed president, thank you so much for your time. steve, thanks to you for sticking around. >> my pleasure. >> meantime
then the risks accumulate and the federal reserve has been printing money to finance the government deficit, buying a lot of government bonds and at some point that is going to come apart and it might come apart, might come apart in a fashion that is rather like august of 2007 where things seem to be going smoothly and then all of a sudden it all falls apart and the question is do we have adequate contingency plans in place should that happen? >> right. >> i fear we do not. >>...
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don't you think we need -- >> we have to do something about the deficit and amount we're borrowing and the route goes through the social programs. >> the only route. knew can't solve it with these high levels. we had high levels like this before after world war i and it came to and and what's driving it now is the coast of these programs are out of hand. i'm a democrat and think these are good things to have. >> there you go. republicans don't think it's a good thing. >> no. i'm not arguing they ought to be cut back or slashed or makes the nanny state because people have access to medicare. they're so important to the structure of the country we have a moral obligation to make sure they're solid, properly funded, stable, sustainable over the long period and because they're an important part of the way people look at their lives. >> the big change is how people look at their lives a decade longer. if we address them now rather than waiting for home to blow up in our faces, these can be put in well in advance rather than waiting. you're not talking about people in these programs right no
don't you think we need -- >> we have to do something about the deficit and amount we're borrowing and the route goes through the social programs. >> the only route. knew can't solve it with these high levels. we had high levels like this before after world war i and it came to and and what's driving it now is the coast of these programs are out of hand. i'm a democrat and think these are good things to have. >> there you go. republicans don't think it's a good thing. >>...